I have no idea when this started, but it’s gotten way out of hand.
So, let’s start this off with Kiniro Mosaic, which is actually where I’ve seen the most of these arguments go down. As is clear, Ayaya clearly has affections of some level for Youko that appear to be more than friendship, which Youko is painfully unaware of. The question then becomes, is it simply admiration, or is it love? I seem to recall a period in which people were raging an endless war on Wikipedia about this, and checking now, it seems that they’ve settled for calling Aya a tsundere but leaving the exact level of her feelings vague. As a sidenote: Wikipedia editors, what the fuck? It’s disgusting and horribly unprofessional to reference a character from a different series in a character description. If you’re reading this, go check and see if it’s still there. Some K-On fanboy must have edited the article, because Yui is referenced in Shino’s description. Now, I love K-On, but that just isn’t right. (And I’m just going to complain and not do anything about it myself, so someone go and fix that shit for all of our sakes)
On the other side of this we’ve got Love Lab, affectionately called “Slut Lab” by shitposters. The series starts out in an all girls high school, and it appears that there will be yuri elements between the members of the student council. However, as time goes on it becomes apparent that they won’t just limit their activities to dakimakura, but move on to (dramatic gasp here) real boys(!?!). Now to be fair, it did seem at first that the anime would stay within the limits of the school, and the OP and ED make no mention of males appearing. But if you stopped to think for a bit it would become immediately apparent that this wouldn’t last, especially with all the crap Riko says about her past relationships. I think that most of the anger towards LL comes from the people expecting nothing but pure love (read: yuri) relationships who got sideswiped by the appearance of guys halfway through. I personally couldn’t care less, as I’m an anime-lover who doesn’t judge based on preconceptions or hearsay. Things are nearly as bad as the edgy vs SoL debate going on with Gainax’s most recent show C3, and how neither side seems to be satisfied.
In conclusion, other than just me calling both sides of this argument goddamn idiots, I think we should all take a deep breath and get back to enjoying our weekly anime. Again, nobody is forcing you into this hobby, and nobody will notice if you suddenly disappear from the discussions. Watch what you want to, have fun, and most importantly, don’t forget to do your passionate idle activities.
The yuri will continue until het is cast down and forgotten.
…but to be serious, anyone who even bothered with Love Lab to begin with isn’t a real yuri fan anyway. We got wind before the show even started that it would turn het. As real yuri fans are very used to doing, we simply gave up on that one and turned our attention on to better material (meaning Kin-iro Mosaic, among others).
Anybody who watched it after that isn’t a yuri fan, but a waifu-hunters. These two are often confused by outsiders, but they should never be conflated. Waifu-hunters don’t want to see girls in ANY relationships because that ruins their self-insertion fantasies – however, they do TOLERATE yuri because, in their minds, girl-girl romance doesn’t actually count. They can simply brush that off and continue their wish-fulfillment delusions. However, this is not the case when female characters actually get boyfriends, which leads to the usual “slut” accusations and the shaming thereof.
I’m sure I don’t need to tell you that this is about as far as you can get from the opinion of an actual yuri fan on the value of female/female romance.
The yuri will continue until het is cast down and forgotten.
…but to be serious, anyone who even bothered with Love Lab to begin with isn’t a real yuri fan anyway. We got wind before the show even started that it would turn het. As real yuri fans are very used to doing, we simply gave up on that one and turned our attention on to better material (meaning Kin-iro Mosaic, among others).
Anybody who watched it after that isn’t a yuri fan, but a waifu-hunters. These two are often confused by outsiders, but they should never be conflated. Waifu-hunters don’t want to see girls in ANY relationships because that ruins their self-insertion fantasies – however, they do TOLERATE yuri because, in their minds, girl-girl romance doesn’t actually count. They can simply brush that off and continue their wish-fulfillment delusions. However, this is not the case when female characters actually get boyfriends, which leads to the usual “slut” accusations and the shaming thereof.
I’m sure I don’t need to tell you that this is about as far as you can get from the opinion of an actual yuri fan on the value of female/female romance.
Yuri is one of the most boring genre ever made.
Agreed with you on that.
Yuri is one of the most boring genre ever made.
Agreed with you on that.
haha nice add-on there at the end akatsukin: “don’t forget to do your passionate idle activities”
dun really care what people says bout love lab c3-bu or kiniro mosaic i love watching em and that’s all that matters humanity is depraved after all getting all pissed off over one freaking thing they do is ridiculous…..
dun really care what people says bout love lab c3-bu or kiniro mosaic i love watching em and that’s all that matters humanity is depraved after all getting all pissed off over one freaking thing they do is ridiculous…..
It’s simply frustrating to see how much people judge a material before even watching it. The amount of times I see “OH Love Lab is a yuri show” or “Is it a yuri show?” just makes me go sigh. With the latter example, I understand if that is a genuine question but come on… take the show for what it is and see for yourself before labelling it. If it isn’t what you want then you can stop right then and there. It is the equivalent of me calling Idolm@ster a yuri show just after looking at the poster and refusing to watch it at all.
I think this is enough ranting, just need to get it out there.
Complaining about weaboos?
So the uneducated can’t seperate yuri from general affection, so what. Just because someone watches a lot of anime doesn’t mean they understand the culture or subliminal stuff.
It’s fairly normal in Japan for kids, or even teenagers and sometimes even adults, to be head-over-heels for someone, regardless of their sex/gender. While this doesn’t mean it’s not love or that it won’t go into yuri/yaoi territory, it’s not really seen as anything noteworthy, although it can be humorous.
I’d say the relationship between Ayaya and Youko is fairly typical, with it’s one-sided nature. That they are good friends outside of that is also pretty normal.
The undersexed virgins that spend too much time reading too much into things, and who want dibs on waifus, aren’t really a demographic worth paying attention to, however much they edit wikipedia character descriptions.
So much hetfag/wafiufag rationalization.
Keep cryin, your tears are delicious.
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Complaining about weaboos?
So the uneducated can’t seperate yuri from general affection, so what. Just because someone watches a lot of anime doesn’t mean they understand the culture or subliminal stuff.
It’s fairly normal in Japan for kids, or even teenagers and sometimes even adults, to be head-over-heels for someone, regardless of their sex/gender. While this doesn’t mean it’s not love or that it won’t go into yuri/yaoi territory, it’s not really seen as anything noteworthy, although it can be humorous.
I’d say the relationship between Ayaya and Youko is fairly typical, with it’s one-sided nature. That they are good friends outside of that is also pretty normal.
The undersexed virgins that spend too much time reading too much into things, and who want dibs on waifus, aren’t really a demographic worth paying attention to, however much they edit wikipedia character descriptions.
So much hetfag/wafiufag rationalization.
Keep cryin, your tears are delicious.
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Yuri vs Het… this is a thing?
Damn, thank goodness I don’t pay attention to Internet drama.
I adore yuri, but I also enjoy plenty of hetero love in anime too. Never really enjoyed much yaoi, unless it’s really comedic.
Personally with Kin’iro Mosaic I was frustrated with lots of hinting and go-nowhere-ness (yes, I’m aware it’s a slice-of-life and not a romance or drama, etc.), despite my liking the series in general. Love Lab I did finish but felt it had a more general kind of fail than simply not being anything yuri, even though I did appreciate the humor. It actually seemed to be more of a good example of the non-sexual “steadfast feminine best-friendship” that characterized late 1800’s / early 1900’s ideas on female bonding, IMHO. The promotional art depicting the two stars in suggestive poses was an obvious yuri psych-out, but I gave it a whirl nonetheless.
I come from the perspective that yuri is simply lesbian love, not a genre of media. I think the clinginess of fans on whether characters are into girls or not shouldn’t evolve into series/character reclassification wars or judgments on “how true” of fans people are.
What a weird thing to argue about, now that I think of it. This is fiction, people.
Yuri vs Het… this is a thing?
Damn, thank goodness I don’t pay attention to Internet drama.
I adore yuri, but I also enjoy plenty of hetero love in anime too. Never really enjoyed much yaoi, unless it’s really comedic.
Personally with Kin’iro Mosaic I was frustrated with lots of hinting and go-nowhere-ness (yes, I’m aware it’s a slice-of-life and not a romance or drama, etc.), despite my liking the series in general. Love Lab I did finish but felt it had a more general kind of fail than simply not being anything yuri, even though I did appreciate the humor. It actually seemed to be more of a good example of the non-sexual “steadfast feminine best-friendship” that characterized late 1800’s / early 1900’s ideas on female bonding, IMHO. The promotional art depicting the two stars in suggestive poses was an obvious yuri psych-out, but I gave it a whirl nonetheless.
I come from the perspective that yuri is simply lesbian love, not a genre of media. I think the clinginess of fans on whether characters are into girls or not shouldn’t evolve into series/character reclassification wars or judgments on “how true” of fans people are.
What a weird thing to argue about, now that I think of it. This is fiction, people.